Oh, perfect. Eric's back.

not for long! *readies shotgun*

creative story, bland dragon. you should focus on storytelling not drawing

BWA HA HA!!! EVAREE 1 VOTE RUBBISH!!! LUV DAT NEW RATING!!!!! ITZ PERFECT FER DIS!!!!! *grabs her binding sword and chicken* DAT ERIC BETTA NOT CUM BAK HEER!!! OR ITZ CHIKEN TIME!!!

what does SPQR stand for?

sumptin in Roman....hay an luk! u can onlee vote 1ce! SEW ERIC DANIEL CANT TRI HIS VOTIN SCEME BI VOTIN EXCELLENT A BILLION TIMEZ!!! YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

i'm guessing you all despise him

exactamund!

gotcha

I hope eric gave up. Even so, you can only vote ONCE! IN YOUR FACE ERIC! HA HA!

that is unethical, casting your vote over and over again to get in the top 5. anyone who did that is scum!

I kno!

Ah, yes. My adoring public. Apparently the tenuous truce of the last gallery format did not transfer as well. SPQR stands for Senatus Populusque Romanus, Latin for the Roman Senate and People. Yes, the language is called Latin. The people and culture called Roman. And we'll see how the voting goes. A shame I did not bother to return sooner. I might have rebuked you all more often.

okay, well i'm going to repeat myself; stick to story writing. you're art sucks

My my, Makla! An original comment. This wasn't discussed at length before I was harassed for multiple votes, nor even afterwards. To address this issue once more, yes, the sketch is not museum quality (real museum, not modern art museum), but it was the best of th other sketches I had to choose from at the time. As to the writing, I thank you. Few enough have had that courtesy to take note of it.

Even the writing was sub-par, and you lack any knowledge of draconic anatomy, as the wings are stretched all the way down to the thighs, in order to prevent said dragon's wings from ripping off due to the air resistance

if this is the best sketch then i gave you WAY too much credit earlier! you absolutely STINK at drawing! and you can cover up your dislike and try to make yourself seem completely incontrol of yourself by trying to talk fancy. it just makes you seem more pathetic really

And anatomy of mythical creatures is not up for debate nor interpretation, right? The writing is a brief description, not a novel. If you would like the dragons life story I'd be happy to begin working on a manuscript for publication. If the only point that can be made of the art itself is that it's poor, then I see no further reason to continue that discussion. How, Makla, can you call maintaining a calm demeanor and proper use of language pathetic in the face of those who proclaim themselves to be dragons, griffins and the like. These who hate humanity and all that it has made, yet still using the electricity and plastics employed to create the machines and power them? These who become riled when called out that their fantasies non sequitur, logic failing to bind with plausibility?

Who said anyone hated humanity? The closest thing I've heard is that they don't like giving rides, not that they hate humans.

i nevr said tha we hated humanity! n dragons do give rides 2 those they trust, most o em anyway. but maklas rite. makin yerself seem rite al the time is pathetic. n nxt time yu give us a lecture on how we shud be, use werds tha evrybod nos!

oops. mistake. tha i n the 1st sentnce shud b we. don no y i put i. sorry guys.

I know the way it works with rides, but in all the pictures where dragons have humans on them, everyone says that it's really degrading.

first of all, it's called 'imagionation', ever heard of that before? apperently you don't have one! second, i wouldn't read a manuscript of your pathetic exuse of a dragon if you threatend to kill me! third, if you see no point to continue the discussion then why the freakin' heck do you keep talking?!

You failed to read the statement. Had I actually gone point by point as to the quality of the sketch, as I have done in previous incarnations of this page, that would have been discussing that which I will no longer discuss. An imagination is apparently something you as well lack, as you display by calling out the only one that actually has a description attached to it. As to the point, brought back to life by Delbin, that many of you who frequent this page claim to have some hatred or grievance against humanity. The point was much belabored in the two previous versions of this page. Finally, in lecturing heathens, I will use the language as I see fit, which is to say in a manner that preserves its highest qualities, as opposed to butchering it for the sake brevity and the popularity purposeful misspellings. Writing as you do, Delbin, only shows that you are a slave to popular culture, incapable of showing the slightest pride in the most powerful language the world has known.

Language in it's highest qualities is not, nor has ever been, in Enlgish, and if you are speaking of the most powerful language the world has known, it is again most certainly not English.

Oieea, aiiao ieaao. Iiooaau eoea ieaa oiieaa. Translator, be silent.

oh, and Eric, You aren't the only one who can type legibly in a contained enviorenment of a box you call your home. If you are going to degrade yourself by putting others down, then why keep visiting, for the sole purpose of trying to harm our pride, then you, my reptilian-brained imbecile, are sadly mistaken. For as Plato's teaching have ridden high and mighty that ideas and ideals are more pronounced and respected than the physical world that we inhabit. And if you are so intelligent and actually possess the correct number of neurons to claim that you have a physical brain, then you would in fact poseess an imagination, for an imagination is what keeps people chained to realit and fantasy. And as the possession of physical attributes continues to increase, the imaginative attributes will increase tenfold in direct corrolation to the physical. For a truly intelligent race would live in direct harmony with nature, thus proving their wisdom. And seeing as humans have not reached that level, many choose to

retreat to the confines of the computer realm to find other similar to them, finding bondage, and thus expanding their imaginations to a grand point. with the prevalence of strife and terrorism, not to mention perr pressure, most would like to have an imagination to come up a pleasant scene for themselves to be happy with. apparently you have never had or will have an imagination, seeing as you had to put a historic explanation on something that doesn't need one, but just has to have a person ;lookign at a picture and admiring and critiqueing it. nobody wants to have a society run on history and pure science, so why try to destroy imagnation?

Intelligence has little to do with imagination, at least not the way you say. What you need to have is sentience, self-awareness. In fact, as intelligence increases, imagination decreases. The more you know, the less there is to imagine, and so someone who knows everything would be incapable of imagining anything.

that was my point that I was trying to get across. I do not believe that what you have said is true, for Malchios an dI are good friend and both have tremendous intelligence and imagination. and physical harmony with a particular ecosystem shows true sentience, for as you can see, what with out need for plastics and electricity, the vast majority of ecosystems are falling apart!

But they cannot imagine as much as a less intelligent being could. A small child, for example, can only imagine what it looks like within a tree, or what the words written before them could mean, whereas Malchios knows what each symbol says, and knows the tale that each ring on the heartwood tells.

indeed, but person mayhave imagination and intelligence in great amounts, not to prove you wrong, but to prove a point

I know, what I am saying is not that an intelligent person cannot imagine much, only that imagination is inhibited slightly by intelligence. The only time imagination is stopped is when someone knows everything, which no one can.

if you see no point in continuing the discussion then why do you keep talking? or are you just afraid to not have to last word, if so then you are as petty as you think we are.

Who?

Eric Damnable

oooooo. good 1 makla. harsh tho.

OOH! Wow, you could cut the tention with a knife! As for the picture - it stinks! You may be able to use the english language to your advantage on some, but to those of us who live in reality, we know what you are about and we don't like it. You are the sniveling, crawling, sadest excuse for a "learned" human being I've ever seen. And due to the fact that you are so self absorbed, and have such a foul distemper, I will refrain from using my name so as to torture you more, just because I can.

Of course that was directed to Eric damnable

Hmm, that fellow seems to be on at the same time as me. Fancy that.

...was it you?

No, I simply thought it notable.

Hey, nobody's been here for a while- ah what the heck, I'm bored. Hey Makla, was that you?

was what me? the anonymous? no

ah, lovley. Eric's back. *sacasam detector explodes* oops. my fault.

ahahaha! nice! anyway, i think he's gone so we can stop bashing him now. it's not polite

I have a question for those of you here. If you despise Eric and his art so much, why do you continue to take time out of your day to come here and criticize them? Why not say what you have to say, then move on? You complain about his "lectures", but yet, you continually come here and talk about him, knowing he will have something to say back to you. State your comment, then move on.

As for my comment: To me, the quality of the art is not what's really important. It's what goes into the creation that makes it good art. The passion put into a piece of art really shines in the final product. I'm not saying Eric's dragon is the best, but I'm not saying it's the worst, either. Eric, you say it's the best you can do. I say you can do better if you try. Lighten up a bit. Let your imagination run wild. Don't worry about the history. Don't worry about logic. Just draw.

Instinct. You haven't won until your opponent has admitted defeat, and he really hasn't done that yet. Oh, and I love to argue. Also, well said, I must congratulate your statement about feeling it, not thinking it.

Exactly! I compleatly agreee, it's fun to argue!

Ersska? or Eric? which is which? A riddle of the wits.

But arguing gets you nowhere...so you like going nowhere?

Arguing gets you into a wonderland of strategy and competition that no amount of muscle or magic can win. And when it is finally over, it gets you into a sense of victory greater than any size of fist can win you.

Ah, but all the time you wasted arguing could be put to something more constructive.

Do you know how much money people spend on entertainment?

I hate to break it to you Silentiea, but no one ever really wins an argument. One person may give up or grow tired of it before the other but they never lose the argument. They may not state it verbally, but most people will still disagree with you. There's still a mental argument going on. So, unless your arguing totally changes a person's views and opinions to COMPLETELY agree with yours (which is highly unlikely), no one has lost or won the argument. Which means there is no victory and no point to it, except for the fact that you get to state your opinions.

That's what makes it so much of a challenge. I have won arguments, it isn't easy, and as such it is even more enjoyable.

Yes, but what if a simple arguement turns into a fight?

Then I talk my way out of it. I don't usually say things that will start a fight, and when I do I usually immediately apologize. Also, I am not easily baited into a fight myself, at least not without a very good reason.

Oh...okay then...

Where did Eric go? He's been awfully quiet lately.

i like it that way so let's not make it seem as though we care about his absence

Well. . .y'all are worried about Sundance, aren't you? Y'all think she might have been in the storm's path. What if Eric was, too? Are y'all heartless enough not to care?

We know that Sundance was definitely not in the storm's path, and as for Eric: if he was there then he has my prayers. I still don't like him though.

ya me 2. no 1 desrves 2 b n a hurricane.

sorry how do you no? dont take those comments of mine on the new pics seriously! Iv said sorry

How does who know what? We know that Sundance wasn't in the storm's path because Tempest checked her IP and it isn't in that area.

What area was it?

Check in the forums.

c'mon, where was she?

I don't think Tempest told us. He said he checked her IP and that it was far from the storms path. He said that in the forums.

does SPQR stand for Special Property Questing Romans?

Senatus Populusque Romanus. The Roman government, in a Latin nutshell.

o tanks for telling. eric better SHUT UP about dragon anatomy were dragons so we no wat they look lik. (some of us r)

sure we would care if Eric was in the path of the hurricane. we would just care more if Sundance was.

You sure Eric and dragonologist aren't the same people?

Nope, don't much care if they are. I don't think I much like either of them anyway.

Well they are both absolute jerks.

I agree, methinks.

Can i insult then even more now?

Only if you're good at it.

haha look out well. right now eric is a demon with wayy to much fleas got frog face on and is an absolute dingbat with a mouth thats too big for his body!!!! ( hint hint his giant comments) and has a serious case of bad breath!!! was that good enough cuse if it wasn't i could go on and on and on.

**gasps dramatically**

thank you, thank you

Well, I think quality should outweigh quantity in this case...

you have problem with my insults?

my sister wants to say something about the pic, here she is:
hi im kiluea's sister, so please don't get annoyed at her. ok so maybe his demeanor isnt the best, but personally i like that dragon. everyone's got their own sense of what they like, and hey, if other people don't like it then its the other person's fault. I can't draw dragons for beans. eric's is really good! but on the imagination part, i think that its kinda cool to pretend to be something that you're not. i personally enjoy neopets, and exploring all the cool made up worlds. So yeah, imaginations a good thing! we all gotta escape the real world at some point but i think that on the dragon anatomy, i mean, thats kind of up in the air. dragon anatomy could be anything. ok, well, thats just my two cents. if you're annoyed at anything i said, dont get mad at Kiluea!! complaints go to me. thanks for listening, all lol!

Kiluea, I didn't say I have a problem with your insults, I said you didn't need more.

o and if anyone has problem with my sister's comments no swears or I'll whack whoever says one with the flat side of Argetskul. understand?

*sticks face into a pillow muffling long string of creative vulgarities*

*takes the pillow away slowly while Makla is still cursing*

ok Makla gets hit with Argetskul!!!!! *grows arms and pulls out Argetskul.* PPPPOOOOOWWWWWWW *makla sails through the air and lands on Mars(the planet)*

gee, you're all so sweet here

yes we know.

*catches Makla with the pillow* See, I took it for a reason.

I like the way your sister thinks, Kiluea. I agree with what she said.

my sis is starting to send messages and she aleady introduced herself on pic 100 under the name Helia. And she says thanks for the comment Ersska.

Isn't she Minksi or something to that effect?

no, that's my little sister.

Then who is Kiluea's sister?

Helia is.