ive just read what you have been saying and both of you have good points but if you think about it the humans had to capture the wolves first and train them and breed them so they could then train the baby wolves and how do you think they could ave captured a dragon so on that bit i agree with E.D but im not taking sides thats just my point of view

at least SOMEONE agrees with me. THANK YOU!
dragons wouldnt have helped people find food; they would have BEEN the food!

Maybe they have found dragon bones before and not realised it....Dragons wings bend when they flap right? Like with bats,their diet might've lacked calcium so the wings would bend when they flew and that would make the wings disintergrate before the rest of the skeleton did.Maybe the body bones were a lot stronger but still hollow than the wings so the body would've survived and the paleontologists mistook it for something else..

then what about the pterodactyl? why has its wing bones been found intact if they ALSO had the same properties?

'dragons wouldnt have helped people find food; they would have BEEN the food!' dragons are smarter than that. If they have the oportunity to be friends with another species, they'll take it.

maybe the pterodactyl had a more calcium filled diet because the dragons had to compete with humans and the humans did wipe out quite afew species and maybe with them eating so many of the animals the dragons couldnt get as much calcium

Grr...I'm dropping out of this conversation....

sorry i didnt mean to get you angry i just wanted to say my opinion

This is why I left the last message board I was a member of!! I'm leaving and NOT coming back. I seem to carry anger with me everywhere I go, after all.

Akira: It's not you, I'm just tired of this topic.

yeah, i agree. its hard to change people's views on things if they hold to their beliefs deeply. so there is no point in arguing over this anymore.

Finally a dragon that looks like a dragon not a rooster

would like to commend the work, truly inspirational

u dont no me and i dont no u, but i luv the pic.

as you all know im a critic. not a nice critic,i know that you probrobly know that E.D and mnementh. but i say this is the best picture ive seen all day! gogogogo raven!

raven's pics are terrific, and they rival Makla's pics

you shouldnt be arguing so much about a being that none has actually seen.its just a waste of time really.and this pic....i am really jeallous of raven.i think i could draw really nice dragons but there is no comparison to this.good work!

So far every Drawing done by Raven is in great detail and color

That is incredible, Makla and you are the best! Another good place for good art is: (...) what the? why won't it let me post a website address? (...)

If I was Raven I'd be calling my lawyer right about now

Shut up.Tempest wouldn't put up art that wasn't sent to him.Have you tried ASKING Raven if she sent them?Obviously not.And do you have any proof that she didn't?

hey how do you know raven is a girl! it very well could be a male!

*shrugs*Raven sounds like a girl's name.I could be wrong.But,If Grimjaj knows Raven personally*throws grimjaj a sly look* then he or she should be able to correct me.

*tosses a knife between both his hands* come on speak little piggy! i think grimjaj sounds like a pigs name! oink oink!

*snort* I've had my fill of pork for this week.grimjaj is...a turd. T.T all week pork chops barbecued pork chops chinese pork flanks.No.Me wants beef.And I have somehow utterly gotten off subject.Grimjaj is beef.Me likes beef.

im a vegaterian but i'll kill this piece of crap!

*takes out her AK47 from a guitar case* *fires a warning round into the ceiling* I bet that was Eric Daniels in disguise.

i love the pic its awesom u have a talent and that pic is cool

Hello,you lot!I'm glad you like my work,unfortunately there have been some scathing remarks,I've noticed!No,I do not use a computer,I use typical colouring pencils and ballpoint pen.The rest is practice,patience and working very close to the paper.Oh,and no,I don't think I'm 'anybody',I'm not interested in 'competing' and my signature is the double R.

@_grimjaj: I have the authorization of every artist whose work is displayed here. In legal terms, this mean the artists here gave me a non-exclusive license to displayed their artwork on this gallery. Moreover, if for any reason, the artist/authors want their artwork to be removed (and it has happened a few times in the past) they can do so by contacting me since the artist retain the copyrights to the submitted artwork.

does that mean i cant use delbins fiingy as a desktop!?

Mnmeneth: I think you still can , just don't claim that it is yours...

OMG THAT IS SO FLIPPIN' AWESOME I wish I could draw that good!I LOVE dragons! I draw them all the time. I have a dragon folder and it has about 1,2,3..... 43 dragon drawings in it. I'm a beginner. I'm only just now getting into shading.

Hello, Jenna!I'm pleased you like my work- The sky's the limit,so keep on drawing!Have you uploaded any work yet? I'd love to see your dragons!

This one is my favorite Raven, I love how you did this one, it looks like an Autumn Dragon!

this looks a little like me!

*looks at Mnemeth's gracefully curving neck and gleaming wings*..Hey, you do look similar!Maybe it's a cousin of yours?

Mnementh? Graceful?! HA!

XD

*falls on floor laughing*

*coughs awkwardly and shuffles about in the silence*

I still can't figure out how I posted these pictures-It must have been at least a year ago!Can anyone point me in the right direction?I'm getting so frustrated trying to remember!!I've tried joining,but it tells me my name is already in use (raven8dragon).

maybe you signed up a year or so ago, sent in your pics, and got complete amnesia afterwards! ask Tempest, maybe he knows.......

Go to the home page and click on E-mail to send in your pics

@Raven: Better click here

As for the username, it was registered to a @yahoo address very recently (Jul 23, 2006). If you tried to register around that date with this address then it's probably your account. I will manually activate the account; try your password and see if it work.

@_Mnmeneth^: As long as you do not redistribute the artist's work without their permission, then you shouldn't worry about copyrights since an artist who share his/her drawings on a public gallery kinda expect other people to download their art and use them on their desktop or for other similar personal uses.

Thankyou,everyone!Mission succesful! Looks like there'll be a few more dragons populating here soon!

WOO-HOO! I'm logged in!!!!Oh, still call me Raven if you want to, peeps!

Who said i wasn't graceful!!!!? lol, cool cheers tempest, by the way raven replace graceful abd gleaming with ... well i'll let you guys decide that, lol!

*giggle* I think everyone's cleared off...Where are ya all?

Raven, I'm still here, and loving your work!

*hugs Ferny* Thanks for still being there! It gets lonely when things go quiet. I can hear the clock ticking and everything!

Er, ED was gone for a while, and Mnementh, Blackhawk and I aren't going to be here this week. I think Akira's gone for a bit, too.

me still here! i was gone but came bak. me was in holland.

I'm here too!!!

Hurrah! Hello,Aiolos! Hello, Delbin! And hello, Mars! Good to see you- this place looks brighter now you're here. Fancy a cuppa? *pours some tea*

Hmmm... Is that green tea? It gives me the giggles XD

im here to ^_^ i was visiting my crazy relatives up north XD

*sips tea* Must be something in the water! *starts giggling*

*Lays still twitching* I just got hugged by Raven!!!! *giggles like little girl* I just got hugged (couple a days ago) by a great artist!

*giggles* XD *sips some more tea* *giggles louder* XD

*Twitches still* *Grabs a small cup of tea* *sips it softly then pours the whole cup and tea down her throat* *Crunches the cup* Yum, chewy

*pours some milk in a cup then adds tea and sugar*teehee I love tea.I drank tea before starting to eat solid food XD *drinks tea*

*pours in the tea then some milk then 5 teaspoons of sugar and drinks it happily*yay tea ^_^

*starts chowing down on a mug*...The white ones taste o.k, but the brown ones last longer! *crunch,smash*

*Nods in agreement* Brings out a case of China cups. How about these? *Grabs one and throws in into the air, where my next stretches and a catch it in my mouth and chew*

I prefer muffins ^^

*starts juggling china cups, catching them in mid-air with a great ,crunchy CHOMP!*

This dragon has the most marvellous compisition I've ever seen through all the drawings I've seen!

*bites into cups* Yummy!

*eats carefully around the base of cup to make a ceramic biscuit*

*grandmothery voice* Oh how lovely dear.

*crunches ceramic biscuit*.....Erm, nice blue rinse you have there, Ferny! *titters*

Wow I dunno what to say

Blue Rinse, I beg your pardon? *pushes old lady glasses over eyes*

*grins* EEEH? SPEAK UP, I'M A BIT DEAF! *starts hobbling around like a second old lady*

Oh my? I'M SORRY I SHOULD LEARN MY MANNERS! *little lady scream* (I love acting like an little old lady*

XD u guys r some silly old dragons XD

*grins sheepishly and tosses granny wig to the floor*..I AM GRANBOT! Behold my laser eyes! *PZZZT!!FOOM!*

Marsy, I ain't no old dragon, I'm just acting like one. *Puts on a beard* *old craggly voice* Now gather around young'ins, I shall tell you a story of the dragon and they gypsy.

Don't let Ferny fool you it was his 2189th birthday last week.

2189 is human years for 13

Speak rather intelligently for a 13 year old human. Don’t they go to that school thing were they learn to think?

Ah! GRANBOT! O.o laser eyes! oh dear.... *gathers round ferny to listen to her story*

Well technically I'm only 12, but since you said it was my 2189th b-day last week, that means, here I'm 13, never heard of that school. *Turns to Marsy* You sure you want to hear the story? It's quite long.

*GRANBOT stomps about like something from Godzilla*

*watches Granbot stomp around* Yeah, of course!

*Shivers* you make me feel so old

Don't worry, Toan! I'm a yesterday child too!

*pats Toan on back* Don't worry, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to make ya sound old. Flattering really that you think I'm rather intellegent.

I was saying to my other half that I couldn't believe how young you are, Ferny! Your language skills are very impressive.

Indeed they are.

And she can draw awesomely too

Thanks you three. I roleplay a lot, so I think that helps.

I love roleplaying! I did lots of D&D when I was younger, now I find RPGs fill the gap very nicely.

What's D&D stand for? I want to say "DragonDrive" but there's no "&" in the middle.

Dungeons and Dragons

Oh ok, thanks Marsy.

Back get it away D&D is evil. I played it for years, went to tournaments all kinds of stuff. I remember when I was in Germany like 5-6 friends would go out get drunk about 10pm then play until 5am. Ahh *Sighs* the good old days no responsibilities nothing just beer me and my Handbook. HAHA that sounds cool I'm going to write a book with that title now "Beer me and my Handbook". ROFL !!!

There's nothing wrong with roleplaying, it certainly isn't evil.If that's what you meant..

Well what I mean by evil is that they tend to just encase you. You loose all track of time and before you no it you've been involved in an unconstructive activity for hours on end. None the less I do love them but I try to stay away.